boehner got some help yesterday. paul ryan came out in favor of his so-called plan b putting him on the florida terms of raising tax groups for some group of americans, and grover norquist, head of the atr, also came out in favor of the plan saying it didn't violate the pledge they took. look, i think two things are going on. one, i think there is a very loud group, mostly of outside groups, conservatives, who are appalled at anything. they make money on no deals. they -- that's how they bolster their -- a racket. i think boehner is in a much better position than in 2011. i think he's got, really, the vast majority of his conference. and the question is, really, what are the senate democrats going to pass? they haven't passed anything? >> n thatand, karen, that's wha all the senates, republicans and democrats. they are going, what is boehner sghoog and democrats going, why can't the white house just invite boehner. senators are being senators. they get this thing.